minwin

[Bill Baxter]

Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote:
> Bill Baxter wrote:
>>
>> Looks interesting.  Thanks for the link.  The one thing I was most 
>> curious about was whether it uses emulation or wrapping of native 
>> widgets.  But I can't find that mentioned anywhere.  All the screen 
>> shots seem to show a winXP kind of look and some clearly non-native 
>> widgets (like the color picker), so I'm thinking it's emulated with 
>> winXP look everywhere?  Is it themeable?
>>
>> Whoa, though, that QTF is crazy!
>> http://www.ultimatepp.org/srcdoc$RichText$QTF$en-us.html
>> "WTF" is more what comes to mind... it seems so out of place in a 
>> toolkit that puts a priority on simplicity and clarity.
>>
>> They should make T-Shirts:
>>   Got "{{1:2 A1::l40/60R6 at 3 A2::! B1:: B2}}"?
>>
> 
> 
> Ultimate++ is a window less GUI toolkit. Everything is written from 
> "scratch" and only the TopWindow has a native handle. They are working 
> on skinning in the latest dev releases (which btw have some nice 
> features and are pretty stable).

Thanks.  I think both approaches have merit.  Sometimes you really just 
want to make a custom widget that draws itself and will work immediately 
on every platform (then emulation==good).  But other times you really 
want to have the native look-and-feel (then wrapping==good).  Other 
times you just want to have a consistent look or theme across all 
platforms (then emulation==good).  But some particular things like file 
dialogs tend to easier on users if they are native (then wrapping==good).

> Harmonia seems to do some of the same things Ultimate++ does.

Harmonia seems an interesting beastie.  Not quite my cup of tea, but 
some interesting ideas there to be sure.

> And yeah QTF is insane :P

The only thing I can figure is that Ultimate++ must have been created by 
some BBS hackers who wrote ANSI graphics in their sleep back in the day.

--bb