Fat Libraries vs. Programming Skills?

[Ary Borenszweig]

Neither for me. :(

Adil wrote:
> The link doesnt work
> 
> Robert Fraser wrote:
>> Manfred Nowak wrote:
>>> Fat Libraries vs. Programming Skills?
>>>
>>> http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/2008/01/0801dewarschonberg.html
>>>
>>> -manfred
>>
>> As a current CS undergrad, I can say that I learned 90% of what I know 
>> about PROGRAMMING outside of class (either on an internship, an 
>> open-source project, or just messing around and being nerdy), and the 
>> other 10% from two of my classes (one high school AP class that 
>> focused on data structures, and one class on shell scripting and 
>> practical computer skills).
>>
>> I think Java isn't necessarily a bad teaching tool for the reasons 
>> they mention, but I think a lower-level imperative language should 
>> come first. Java should be introduced after Smalltalk or something to 
>> show many of the advantages of safe, happy, VM programming and why 
>> object-oriented programming leads to good software design.
>>
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