Brief report about the Tango Conference 2008 in Torun

[Andrei Alexandrescu]

Jason House wrote:
> Sean Kelly Wrote:
> 
>> Alexander Pánek wrote:
>>> Sean Kelly wrote:
>>>> Alexander Panek wrote:
>>>>> bearophile wrote:
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>> regarding a common runtime for Phobos and Tango,<
>>>>>> Can you give a little summary of this?
>>>>> Well, there’s a project on dsource (druntime: 
>>>>> http://dsource.org/projects/druntime) which is supposed to
>>>>> hold that common runtime.
>>>> I just thought I'd mention that if anyone wants to play with 
>>>> this, the runtime is fully functional and there are versions 
>>>> available for both D 1.0 and D 2.0 (in a branch and trunk, 
>>>> respectively).  Assuming everything works out however, I expect
>>>> that only Phobos for D 2.0 will actually use the common
>>>> runtime, since D 1.0 is in maintenance mode now.
>>> Ah, good to know. What are the differences between druntime and
>>> Tango’s runtime? What about the features Tango has but Phobos
>>> doesn’t?
>> The location of things have changed and certain bits have been
>> tightened up a bit compared to Tango, but the functionality should
>> be identical to Tango's runtime.  With that in mind, if you want to
>> try it out, build druntime and replace tango-base-dmd.lib with
>> druntime-dmd.lib, get rid of the .di files in tango/core that are
>> generated by the lib build process, and use the top-level memory,
>> thread, etc, modules in their place.
>> 
>> The project is really just a proof of concept at this point.  I've
>> got a version of Phobos for D 2.0 working on top of druntime with
>> no problems, for example, but there is no official support yet for
>> druntime from Phobos or Tango.
>> 
>> In short, druntime works just fine, but to actually use it right
>> now you're pretty much on your own.  I'll be happy to answer any
>> questions regarding setup, but don't have any plans yet for
>> installation scripts, packaging, etc.
>> 
>> By the way, DMD is the only supported compiler at the moment.  I'll
>> add support for the others later if the project actually takes off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sean
> 
> What has been done to coordinate with Walter and/or the Phobos
> development team? Does the license match Walter's requirement? Are
> there any known reasons why D2 would not want to adopt this runtime?

D2 will in all likelihood adopt Sean's runtime. We only need to put in 
the adaptation work. I think Sean has done a tremendous contribution to 
the community.

Andrei