OT: Scripting on websites [Was: Re: QtD 0.1 is out!]

[Ary Borenszweig]

Nick Sabalausky escribió:
> "Daniel Keep" <daniel.keep.lists at gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:gmg4av$dqp$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>
>> Ary Borenszweig wrote:
>>> lol :)
>>>
>>> Yeah, well, for a directory listing they could have shown the full tree,
>>> but if it's too big then it's ugly, and browsing folder by folder (like
>>> dsource) is slow for me.
>> The point is that instead of giving you a sub-optimal but functional
>> alternative, they give you none.
>>
>> It's like not putting in wheelchair access ramps on the argument that
>> they're inconvenient due to being a longer path than the stairs.
>>
>>> You are right in that replacing href="" with onclick="" just for a link
>>> is stupid.
>> Not just stupid; there's a whole circle of hell devoted to people who do
>> that.  They sit in endless thirst with water coolers everywhere.  The
>> catch is the taps have been replaced with "low-resistance" jobbies that
>> require a special spanner to turn.
>>
>> Such spanners were never built.
>>
>>> But... why Javascript hurts you that much? What did it do to you?
>> Leaving aside Javascript the language and talking about JS as used in
>> browsers, it's not the language itself.  It's how it's used.  It's the
>> constant needless use of it that breaks the user experience.  I think I
>> enumerated all the big ones previously.
>>
>> Let's say you're moving house, and ask someone to help.  They come over,
>> and are really helpful.  But every five minutes, they bitch-slap you and
>> kick you between the legs.  Then go back to being helpful.
>>
>> Eventually, you're going to throw them out no matter HOW helpful they
>> is.  Bad web developers have abused JS so much, so often and for so
>> long, that I've decided it's less stressful to run with JS disabled.
>>
>> Don't even get me started on sites based entirely on Flash...
>>
> 
> Oh great, now you've gotten ME started on Flash... ;)
> 
> There are a LOT of people (myself included), that will immediately leave a 
> site, never to return, the moment they see that FlashBlocker box taking up 
> 99% of the page. I can sum up all my feelings about Flash (and many, but not 
> all, uses of JS) pretty simply: They are the 2000's version of animating 
> GIFs and blink tags, except it's worse simply because most people don't seem 
> to have actually learned anything from the history of animating GIFs and 
> blink tags.
> 
> Interesting side note: I've noticed that such flash-only pages and sites 
> seem to be by far the most common among musicians and restaurant chains.
> 
> Don't get me started on actual Flash development... (I have the 
> oh-so-wonderful luck of being near the beginning of a large project that, 
> due to client requirements, is built primarily on Flash and PHP.  Whooo boy, 
> am I having fun...(/sarcasm))

Oh, you are not near as lucky as me. Imagine a site built entirely in 
Silverlight. Whoooooo!!!