DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

[Steven Schveighoffer]

On Mon, 13 May 2013 17:43:01 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic  
<andrej.mitrovich at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/13/13, Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In about 4 days, I remember coming home and seeing 4 more hours and  
>> saying,
>> "aw crap, we have four hours of TV to watch"  When it became a chore, we
>> deleted the "season pass".
>
> Isn't this an issue with Tivo only having limited space to keep the
> episodes, essentially forcing you to watch something or delete it?
> This is not an issue with your average PC hard drive.

In our case, it was more of the fact that we didn't have time to watch all  
Law and Order episodes in existence, as there was about 4 per day on TNT +  
the newest one on NBC or whatever channel that was :)  At the time, I had  
I think 80 hours available (at low quality), so running out of space was  
not a problem.  But there is something about having it *available* that  
compels you to watch it, and eventually ends up making you resent the  
availability, however irrational that is (I mean, TiVo took the time to  
record all these, the least we can do is watch them.  He's so cute too,  
why do they make him so CUTE with that fucking smile and sliding through  
the virtual world of video bits!  Curse you TiVo!)

But it's not a direct comparison, as I noted.  The issue I think we want  
to avoid is to have everyone HAVING to watch all the talks in order to  
participate in the discussion.  All us conference goers could be having  
related "insiders" discussions all over the newsgroups, but I think we  
have all pretty much refrained from doing that.  Even if that's not the  
main point of the delay, it's good to consider that NG threads have a  
short life, and you want to have as many involved as possible.

> Also, you may not want to watch every episode. For example if I think
> an episode is bad I just won't watch it, I'll watch the next episode.
> This probably won't work with series that have a continuous storyline,
> but with conference videos every "episode" is unique, and I'm really
> not interested in all of them. Having a delay of several days between
> releases does nothing to make me more interested in a talk.

Believe me, I was definitely interested only in a few, and I was just a  
bit unenthusiastic on watching all of them to get to those.  I was very  
much proven wrong.  All the talks were good.  I think this is important to  
note.

> As for watching several hours per day, that's ok with me (e.g. if it's
> a really good series). If I have a free day to spare I'll watch any
> number of episodes if it's a really good show (Breaking Bad, Dexter,
> La Femme Nikita, just to name a few, were all great to watch eagerly).

It shouldn't be a requirement, though.

> But this is clearly a YMMV territory, everyone has different needs.
>
> Anyway I wish this PR stunt was announce *beforehand*.

I think part of it is logistics and preparation.  You simply can't upload  
them all at once and have them all available at once.  There must be SOME  
delay between postings that lasts longer than watching each video.  The  
extension is simply to spread out the discussion/impact.  I think it is a  
wise PR move.

-Steve