DMD v2.066.0-rc1

Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce digitalmars-d-announce at puremagic.com
Thu Aug 14 12:14:24 PDT 2014


On 8/7/2014 1:05 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>
> I've never encountered anybody try and use MSC from the command line in
> about 15 years professionally.

I've tried to. When using Marmalade. Marmalade's mandatory build system 
is very closed-off and VS-integrated, so when I needed to include other 
stuff into my workflow (forget exactly why/what), I had to invoke from a 
script. And it worked *very* poorly.

The fact that so few people use VS from the cmd line could partly be 
*because* it works so poorly:

Ex 1: There's a lot of apple fans who have rationalized all sorts of 
limitations as "good", or at least acceptable, long as the apple didn't 
support them. Then the moment apple would offer it, suddenly it'd be 
hailed as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Ex 2: Linux users rarely use GUI file managers. I love GUI file 
managers, but when I'm on Linux, I find even I do a lot more of my file 
management on the cmdline than I normally would. I do that *because* 
linux file managers tend to be pretty bad (esp the Nautilus-based ones 
IMO). So I'm not surprised other Linux users aren't really into GUI file 
managers either.

We could be seeing a similar thing here. Something is shunned as "bad" 
*because* that particular world's version of it is very poorly done or 
otherwise unavailable.

> That's what I mean about this culture; it's
> the opposite of linux, and it outright rejects practises that are
> linux-like.
>

While I don't doubt that's true of a lot of people in the industry, I 
have to question how much stubbornly clinging to ignorance can really 
count as a "culture". I'm tempted to claim that isn't culture at all, 
it's just pandemic pigheaded ignorance.



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