2D game engine written in D is in progress

[Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 17:21:43 UTC, ketmar via 
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> it is still unusable. i don't care what problems samsung or 
> other oem
> have, as i still got the closed proprietary system.

Not exactly, as the flourishing Android ROM scene shows.  While 
many people also jailbreak their Apple iDevices, it's not quite 
so easy to install your own ROM on them.  That comes from much of 
the source being open for Android, though certainly not all of it.

> what google really
> has with their "open-sourceness" is a bunch of people that 
> works as
> additional coders and testers for free. and alot of hype like 
> "hey,
> android is open! it's cool! use android!" bullshit.

What's wrong with reusing open-source work that has already been 
done in other contexts, through all the open source projects that 
are integrated into Android?  Those who worked for "free" did so 
because they wanted to, either because they got paid to do so at 
Red Hat or IBM and released their work for free or because they 
enjoyed doing it.  Nothing wrong with Android building on 
existing OSS.

As for the hype, the source google releases, AOSP, is completely 
open.  You're right that it's then closed up by all the hardware 
vendors, but I doubt you'll find one who hypes that it's open 
source.  So you seem to be conflating the two.

On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 18:50:14 UTC, ketmar via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 18:23:59 +0000
> Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-announce
>> Well, those people want to do that, so why not?
>
> i have nothing against that, everyone is free to do what he 
> want. what
> i'm against is declaring android "open project". it's 
> proprietary
> project with partially opened source.

I'd say open source project with proprietary additions. :) But 
AOSP is not particularly open in how it's developed, as google 
pretty much works on it on their own and then puts out OSS code 
dumps a couple times a year.  That's not a true open source 
process, where you do everything in the open and continuously 
take outside patches, as D does, but they do pull in patches from 
the several outside OSS projects they build on.

In any case, AOSP releases all their source under OSS licenses, 
not sure what more you want.