Ddb needs a maintainer
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Sun Feb 14 05:01:40 PST 2016
On Saturday, 13 February 2016 at 19:06:46 UTC, Eugene Wissner
wrote:
> On Saturday, 13 February 2016 at 14:52:46 UTC, Adil Baig wrote:
>> Hey Eugene,
>>
>> Caraus seems like an interesting project. How do you plan to
>> build it out and differentiate it from vibe.d?
>
>
> Difficult to explain it in a few sentences in a foreign
> language, but I'll try. Just don't hesitate to ask if you have
> any questions. I'm also not very familiar with vibe.d, I've
> just seen a few examples and read about it a bit; so Sönke
> should excuse or correct me if I say nonsense :).
>
> It should be a framework for easy building and maintaining of
> websites. The applications built on it would follow MVC (or
> MVC-like) pattern by default, but since the framework is
> thought as a set of reusable components/modules it should be
> possible to use it for everything else like micro-webframework
> for small projects with custom structure. The whole framework
> should ship an abstraction over HTTP(S), mail sending
> (sendmail, smtp), session handling with a possibility to
> implement an own storage (file system, redis, memcached,
> PostgreSQL...), dependency injection, router and so on.
>
> It is a very common description. Now I make a few examples
> showing what I think the framework should be able to do.
>
> 1) Creating a website should be as simple as creating a
> Controller and a router configuration (YAML or database for
> example), that assigns some route to this controller. Think of
> something like this:
>
> class IndexController
> {
> indexAction(Request request)
> {
> int contentId =
> this.getDatabase().getContentModel().getPageById(5);
>
> this.render("myTemplate.tpl", ["content": contentId]);
> }
> }
>
> 2) Form handling. You create a register form. So you create a
> class User:
> class User
> {
> int username;
> string password;
> }
>
> and that class with some additional information should be
> rendered to a web form. There are should be also routins to
> help to verify the form (helpers for checking for email, length
> of the input, phone number) and persist it to a database.
> Whereby I don't think on ORM here, I'm not a big fan of ORMs.
> For my projects I would implement a rich domain model with
> domain objects, mappers... But it should be possible to use ORM
> as well if this is available. Dependency Injection would make
> such freedom possible. Btw. I think I won't write a DIc,
> https://github.com/mbierlee/poodinis looks very promissing for
> me. I would use any tools that meet requirements.
>
> So it should help web developers in their daily job and should
> make the web development pleasant.
> It doesn't mean that I implement 10 session handlers from the
> beginning. I will slowly implement things that I need for my
> projects and will accept contributions if there are some
> contributers one day.
> And I can't promise that everything will be ready tomorrow. It
> is very time consuming. But I got a new project last week that
> may grow in the future. So I will begin to use these tools for
> my work (I'm pretty free what I'm writing in and how I do it).
>
> It can overlap with vibe.d here and there, but I think it is
> more a continuation of vibe.d's http submodule. There were
> already few attempts to create a similar framework on top of
> vibe.d, see: https://github.com/CarbonComputed/carb.d or
> https://github.com/Skadi-d/Skadi.d for example. But I want to
> make it independent of the underlying platform (vibe.d, SCGI,
> FastCGI).
> So far....
my five cents on that topic...
@Eugene:
From my point of view, it would be great if you could bring in
all your ideas, wishes, changes, additions and new stuff into
vibe_d and help to grow and extend it and make it more usable...
Don't get me wrong, I thinks it's great if developers have
various choices in general to pick from, but especially in Dlang
"core tools" some of the existing stuff needs more
contributors/help... like vibe_d, dub (both from Sönke & team)
dfmt, ...
You and Sönke share the same native language (German) and also
the same time zone (Munich/Berlin)... and as it seems also the
same interest in "Web stuff/Frameworks", right? It shouldn't be
that difficult for you guys to alighn and team-up to build an
even better "Dlang Web tools/Framework development team"...
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