D User Survey
user1234
user1234 at 12.nl
Sat Dec 9 15:38:06 UTC 2017
On Friday, 8 December 2017 at 22:22:14 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 05:53 AM, Chris wrote:
>>
>> Yep. D seems to be quite popular in Europe. I wonder why that
>> is, given that it originated in the USA and people in the
>> States are more open to new technologies. What were the
>> technical and social factors at work here? Maybe D wasn't
>> fancy enough to be taken seriously in the USA and maybe people
>> from outside the USA (not only in Europe) looked at it and
>> said "Hold on, that's something interesting...and we can
>> contribute to it." D certainly struck a chord with many
>> programmers around the globe, but what is it exactly? (Please
>> no jokes about D major or D minor chords now ;)
>
> Speaking as a US citizen, it's long been my observation that
> americans (and I only mean collectively, of course, it's
> difficult to generalize down to individuals since that varies
> greatly) tend to be far more conservative than one would assume
> them to be.
>
> Just as one example: The various genres of electronic music.
> Always succeeded far better in europe than they ever did the
> US. Americans would hear it and just bitch about "soulless",
> "doesn't require musical talent" and other such [nonsence]. But
> turn on (for example) BBC's Top Gear and they had recognizable
> Prodigy, Crystal Method, etc all over the place. And heck, most
> of Fluke's catalog isn't even available in the US. That sort of
> stuff just doesn't sell very well over here. Americans like
> their "three main acoustic cords" and steady simple 4/4 beats.
>
> Even "silicon vally" isn't quite so much "open to new
> technology" as it is driven primarily by buzz and popularity.
>
> And then there's the last presidential election, which, and I
> don't mean this to be snarky, just honest observation: it
> clearly demonstrated there's far more white
> tra...*cough*...umm..."ultra-conservatives" here than anyone
> ever thought.
>
> From what I hear, we're one of the few remaining industrialized
> nations that has capital punishment. Whether that's good/bad is
> completely beside the point here, the point being: Either way,
> it's undeniably conservative.
>
> Despite perhaps tipping my hand a bit, I really don't mean any
> of that as ranting at all, just illustrating that it DOES make
> sense that europe would be more open to D than the US:
>
> Because the US *is* paradoxically much more conservative than
> one would expect from a relatively young country that produces
> as much software and electronics as it does. Whether that
> conservativeness is good/bad/other is open to opinion, but
> either way, it is what it is, and I think D's higher rate of
> success elsewhere can be traced to that.
There are interesting stuff in your comment but i think we're
going off-topic.
Let's no go too far, the point, initially, is that survey is not
good.
In no way it should be used to split ourselves.
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