D User Survey

user1234 user1234 at 12.nl
Sat Dec 9 15:38:06 UTC 2017


On Friday, 8 December 2017 at 22:22:14 UTC, Nick Sabalausky 
(Abscissa) wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 05:53 AM, Chris wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. D seems to be quite popular in Europe. I wonder why that 
>> is, given that it originated in the USA and people in the 
>> States are more open to new technologies. What were the 
>> technical and social factors at work here? Maybe D wasn't 
>> fancy enough to be taken seriously in the USA and maybe people 
>> from outside the USA (not only in Europe) looked at it and 
>> said "Hold on, that's something interesting...and we can 
>> contribute to it." D certainly struck a chord with many 
>> programmers around the globe, but what is it exactly? (Please 
>> no jokes about D major or D minor chords now ;)
>
> Speaking as a US citizen, it's long been my observation that 
> americans (and I only mean collectively, of course, it's 
> difficult to generalize down to individuals since that varies 
> greatly) tend to be far more conservative than one would assume 
> them to be.
>
> Just as one example: The various genres of electronic music. 
> Always succeeded far better in europe than they ever did the 
> US. Americans would hear it and just bitch about "soulless", 
> "doesn't require musical talent" and other such [nonsence]. But 
> turn on (for example) BBC's Top Gear and they had recognizable 
> Prodigy, Crystal Method, etc all over the place. And heck, most 
> of Fluke's catalog isn't even available in the US. That sort of 
> stuff just doesn't sell very well over here. Americans like 
> their "three main acoustic cords" and steady simple 4/4 beats.
>
> Even "silicon vally" isn't quite so much "open to new 
> technology" as it is driven primarily by buzz and popularity.
>
> And then there's the last presidential election, which, and I 
> don't mean this to be snarky, just honest observation: it 
> clearly demonstrated there's far more white 
> tra...*cough*...umm..."ultra-conservatives" here than anyone 
> ever thought.
>
> From what I hear, we're one of the few remaining industrialized 
> nations that has capital punishment. Whether that's good/bad is 
> completely beside the point here, the point being: Either way, 
> it's undeniably conservative.
>
> Despite perhaps tipping my hand a bit, I really don't mean any 
> of that as ranting at all, just illustrating that it DOES make 
> sense that europe would be more open to D than the US:
>
> Because the US *is* paradoxically much more conservative than 
> one would expect from a relatively young country that produces 
> as much software and electronics as it does. Whether that 
> conservativeness is good/bad/other is open to opinion, but 
> either way, it is what it is, and I think D's higher rate of 
> success elsewhere can be traced to that.

There are interesting stuff in your comment but i think we're 
going off-topic.
Let's no go too far, the point, initially, is that survey is not 
good.
In no way it should be used to split ourselves.


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