Vision document for H1 2018
R
Ryzo1201 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 11 01:06:08 UTC 2018
On Sunday, 11 March 2018 at 00:36:19 UTC, Dylan Graham wrote:
> Well, no. I'm more concerned with the fact that the D Language
> Foundation is focused on BetterC, yet does not mention DLLs at
> all.
>
> For God's sake, if D is the future, why does it continue to
> leech off C/C++? Other languages like Rust and C# only have
> basic function calling C (FFI/PInvoke) yet are way more
> popular. I get the feeling that most of the C++ programmers who
> would come to D have already done so.
>
> The most I'll ever need of interfacing with C and C++ is to be
> able to call their functions from D. I've no reason for BetterC.
>
> And what's with the language design, anyway? D has been
> designed with features that C++ programmers don't want, then
> now the D Language Foundation is wasting effort to change the
> language to rope those programmers in? If D was meant to be C++
> 2.0, shouldn't it have been designed that way from the start?
>
> I came to D from a C# background. I was looking a language that
> had a GC, was awesome to program in and was very fast. Why
> can't D own up to these facts, rather than becoming a leech of
> C++?
>
> Every day D becomes more like C++ 2.0, why can't it just be D?
Point to the wall on the left side. That is what your talking to.
D its focus on C++ as a bad plan has been made pushed by many
people ( lots who left ). Its like asking Go for Generics.
And its very nice to see the "71% in the poll do not want
BetterC", well, screw them comment. So what is the point again by
asking people opinions? And sure, BetterC can be reused to
improve the D core but that is not what people want NOW. And yet,
its a priority when 71% say its not!
D simply is not equipped for dealing with people who come from
languages like C#, Ruby, PHP, Python, ... because too many people
here are C++ old timers ( yes, there are exceptions ) and they
only think in that direction.
Kind of ironic when D keeps pushing for more features hoping that
it will attract C++ developers and the young kid on the block
Rust is already eating up that market. And "scripting" language
like PHP, that everybody criticizes just keeps growing and gained
11% market share in the last 7 years ( at now 83% ). Where as D
its gain has been minimalist thanks to people leaving almost as
fast as it gain.
There is a lesson the be learned in this somewhere...
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