My Meeting C++ Keynote video is now available

Martin Tschierschke mt at
Mon Jan 14 10:18:34 UTC 2019

On Monday, 14 January 2019 at 07:50:32 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 1/13/2019 9:31 PM, Paul Backus wrote:
>> Scheme is probably the language that takes this idea of a 
>> minimal "core language" with powerful metaprogramming 
>> facilities the furthest, and the result is a fragmented 
>> ecosystem that makes writing portable, non-trivial programs 
>> close to impossible. (See "The Lisp Curse" [1].)
>> When something like an object system is made part of the 
>> language (or at the very least, the standard library), it 
>> becomes a focal point [2] that the community can coordinate 
>> around. Due to the diverse, distributed nature of any 
>> programming-language community, trying to coordinate through 
>> explicit communication is not really a viable option, so 
>> having these kinds of focal points is very important if we 
>> want to be able to work together on anything.
>> [1]
>> [2]
> Interesting cites, which provide a basis for why I've opposed 
> AST macros, and why Ddoc and unittest are builtin (and a few 
> other things).
> Also, before std::string came along in C++, everyone invented 
> their own string class, and as a result, nobody could share 
> code.

This is exactly the argument to get a database driver 
(mysql,postgres...) and probably a webserver in std.

But to avoid getting std.lib to big, the D Foundation might adopt 
some third party libs as core libraries, so they get maintained 
within the D Foundation Git account to make them somehow official.

We are now approaching the 1500 Dub package, and the ecosystem 
becomes more and more complex.

(  1482 packages: The search for mysql now 
returns 23 packages. Please tell me which to use for the back 
end, of your own vibe.d app. I give you 5 minutes...:-)
Regards mt.

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