My Meeting C++ Keynote video is now available

12345swordy alexanderheistermann at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 14:59:03 UTC 2019


On Monday, 14 January 2019 at 10:06:48 UTC, Mike Franklin wrote:
> On Monday, 14 January 2019 at 05:31:27 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
>
>> When something like an object system is made part of the 
>> language (or at the very least, the standard library), it 
>> becomes a focal point [2] that the community can coordinate 
>> around. Due to the diverse, distributed nature of any 
>> programming-language community, trying to coordinate through 
>> explicit communication is not really a viable option, so 
>> having these kinds of focal points is very important if we 
>> want to be able to work together on anything.
>>
>> [1] http://winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html
>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_point_(game_theory)
>
> I think D's structs are a sufficient object system for such a 
> focal point.  With design by introspection, `alias`, templates, 
> `alias this`, `static if`, CTFE, mixins, and a few new D 
> features, classes would be unnecessary.  Rust and Zig are 
> pretty good examples of this.
>
> D's implementation could even be improved to keep its runtime, 
> yet still allow D to be used as I'm suggesting, without 
> introducing any breakage for anyone.  I made some significant 
> progress in that direction when I was working on the compiler 
> in the 2017~2018 timeframe, but my abilities ultimately fell 
> short, and I couldn't see a way forward without support.
>
> Mike

Killing classes will kill my interest and investment in D.
Alex.


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