wiki: D on AVR

Ernesto Castellotti erny.castell at
Wed Nov 27 19:30:15 UTC 2019

On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 at 18:25:47 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 02:35:53PM +0000, Ernesto Castellotti 
> via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I wrote a page in the wiki for basic information on how to use 
>> D on AVR 8-bit, using LLVM and LDC.
>> With BetterC everything seems to be working fine, now it's 
>> time to create a framework for using D on microcontrollers!
> According to Walter (cf. 
>, slide 5), D was 
> designed with the assumption of running on a 32-bit or higher 
> CPU.  How is this handled in the AVR case?  Or is this strictly 
> only for betterC? (Even with -betterC I'm having some trouble 
> imagining how basic D features might work on an 8-bit 
> controller.)
> Not questioning your work -- I think this is awesome -- but 
> just curious about the practical implications of writing D for 
> an 8-bit environment.
> T

The support to targets that use 16 bits as a pointer size has 
already been added to LDC 
(, so minimal AVR 
support is present (AVR uses 16 bit pointers).
Obviously not all the language works with AVR, however with 
BetterC there are no problems.
But the support to druntime and phobos is non-existent, honestly 
I don't think it's a big problem, I am of the opinion that it is 
better to have a separate library to develop on AVR.
Most of the modules in phobos are useless for the classic AVR 
work, or they are inadequate because they use GC or depend on an 
operating system.
In my opinion, nobody really wants to use them.

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