DIP1028 - Rationale for accepting as is
Bruce Carneal
bcarneal at gmail.com
Fri May 22 14:53:52 UTC 2020
On Friday, 22 May 2020 at 13:57:27 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> On Friday, 22 May 2020 at 12:47:04 UTC, matheus wrote:
>>
>> As an end user, I'd like to know if this language will be
>> guided by community or one person, because it seems the
>> "democracy" is very shallow right now.
>>
>> And again why waste time with this process plus 2 rounds of
>> discussion?
>>
>> I mean just do it and tell in this announcement section about
>> the feature.
>>
>
> The DIP review process is not intended for community approval
> or rejection of DIPs. It's not a democratic voting process.
> It's intended to elicit community feedback to enhance the DIP
> under review (the Feedback Threead) and to allow the airing of
> opinions (the Discussion Thread). All DIP authors have the
> freedom to incorporate suggestions into their DIP or not, and
> Walter and Atila make the decision to accept or reject. If you
> look at the history of Walter's DIPs, they *do* take the
> opinions into consideration even when he is the author. Several
> of his previous DIPs have been withdrawn or rejected.
No dispute here.
>
> If a popular DIP is rejected, it means neither of them were
> convinced by opinion to accept it. And, as in the case for this
> DIP, if an unpopular DIP is accepted, it means they were not
> persuaded by the arguments against it.
>
Not exactly. IIUC logical "and" is required for approval. One
of the two might have been persuaded to accept. "not and", a
single disapproval, suffices for rejection. I believe this is a
useful weighting.
> From my perspective, the process is working as intended,
> despite the comments to the contrary in this thread. You either
> convince a DIP author to modify his DIP, or you don't. You
> either persuade Walter and Atila to accept or reject it, or you
> don't.
Again, IIUC, you either persuade Walter *or* Atila to reject or
you don't. Apropos of which, what does Atila think of this DIP?
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