Beginner ?. Why does D suggest to learn java

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On 17/10/14 03:05, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 00:52:14 +0000
> MachineCode via Digitalmars-d-learn <digitalmars-d-learn at puremagic.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand. If at least it were C but java? why not D
>> itself?
> C is *awful* as "beginner's language". never ever let people start with
> C if you don't hate 'em.
>
> as for D... current version of D can be used, but with some
> precautions. we now have excellent book by Ali. (it's great, really! i
> believe that it must be featured on the front dlang.org page!) but java
> has alot more books and tutorials.
>
> not that D is bad for beginners, it's just has a smaller userbase. and
> all that things with "classes are reference types and structs are not",
> "empty array is not empty array but is empty array" and so on D may be
> confusing a little. it's good to have some CS background to understood
> that things.

What you say here applies, I guess, to many other points. I applaud Ali for 
writing a tutorial like his but... Check it (just the first pages is enough) for 
literally the dozens of notions one must know and master for being able to 
understand, not only the features of D introduced, but even the tutorial itself. 
If I am not a programmer, and one who knows other static langs, and better of 
the mainstream procedural paradigm, if not D itself, then I do not understand 
more than few isolated words here and there. We are blind to the huge pile of 
concepts we know, I guess, because we know them, thus take them for granted...

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