Building Libraries in the face of API and ABI changes [was Understanding SIGSEGV issues]

Russel Winder russel at
Fri Jan 11 05:31:58 UTC 2019

On Thu, 2019-01-10 at 13:09 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-
learn wrote:
> That is one problem with linking against C or C++ code -- changes to 
> certain things (e.g. struct layout) don't change the mangling.

I am having nightmares trying to decide what to do with the Rust version based
around generate on demand or on version change. With bindgen in Rust though,
there is no need for manual tweaking so automated is possible. Except that it
puts a massive dependency burden on any project using it.

DStep generated bindings tend to need some manual tweaking that cannot be
automated, which is surprising given that bindgen can do things without manual
intervention for Rust.

> You may want to consider using dpp instead if possible.

DPP cannot build "out of the box" on Debian Sid, so I have not actually tried

There are three audiences here:

1. People building libraries for their own use on their own machines.
2. People building for OS distributions.
3. People building to distribute to others who will not be building for

Categories 1 and 2 could probably cope with automated generation despite the
huge dependency burden, assuming there are no version conflicts – this seems
to be a massive  unsolved problem with Rust/Cargo/ :-( .

Category 3 needs as light a weight and speed of build as possible, and the
ability to dynamically adapt to the APIs and ABIs of execution at run time.

On the other hand, suspect I may be the sole user of RUst and D bindings to

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