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Sean Kelly
sean at f4.ca
Sat Feb 25 16:25:09 PST 2006
Georg Wrede wrote:
> Sean Kelly wrote:
>
> Problem was, from day one, that these guys wanted so bad to help, but
> the code they wrote wasn't worth the effort of trying to understand the
> spaghetti inside. At the same time, some of them were disappointed when
> after the great effort they had seen, none of their code made it in. And
> some other guys just pass by, hear about this for the first time, and
> off-hand send Linus 30 lines of C, making Linus yell out of excitement.
> It's so wrong, ain't it?
It's definitely a tough situation to be in. I've thought about this
situation even with respect to Ares (mostly speculatively, given that
it's a tiny project) and I don't know that there's any way to make
everyone happy. So I can definitely sympathize with Linus if this was a
motivating factor.
>> But Linus has both the right to choose or reject whomever
>> he wants as a co-developer, and the right to say "no" to anyone he
>> chooses. Upon reflection, it seems like Linus has simply constructed
>> a situation that allows him to avoid confrontation and to make him
>> feel like he's doing something really special.
>
> He's not one of those ego-guys. (Ego-guys in my book being Larry Ellison
> of Oracle, Richard Stallman of FSF, etc. Exemplary non-ego-guys being
> (surprise!) Bill Gates of Microsoft, Steve Bourne of unix sh fame, etc.)
>
> So "to make him feel like he's doing something special" doesn't apply to
> Linus.
I didn't really mean it in that way so much as that I had a vague
impression that Linus is somewhat insecure in the way that a lot of
geeks are. But I know hardly anything about the man so it was a shot in
the dark :-)
>> He's welcome to do
>> that, but I hope people realize what's actually going on when his bug
>> fixes take five times longer than they need to.
>
> (Wish I had something to say about that, but I don't.)
And I might be completely off the mark. When you're as familiar with
the code as Linus probably is with the Linux kernel, debuggers are often
simply unnecessary. But they're a great tool to have available just in
case.
> Heh, so D is making us all into Real Men! I kind of like that! :-)
"The D Programming Language - Puts Hair on Your Chest" might be a bit of
a put-off for the women here ;-)
Sean
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