The DeRailed Challenge

[kris]

BLS wrote:
> kris schrieb:
> 
>> 4) A back-end interface, to the DB. DDBI currently looks like a 
>> reasonable solution, and there's  work currently under way to make it 
>> much more useful.
> 
> 
> Hi Kris,
> DB Frontend and Backend design is my bread and butter job, so I guess I 
> am qualified enough to say that connecting to, and querying a DB is not 
> enough.  Data Encapsulation and Data Binding is needed in order to 
> create Frontend (WEB/Desktop) applications.

Absolutely. That's the effort currently under way :)

> 
> The Java folks allready have a solution, which depends NOT (nessesarily) 
>  on JDBC. IMO this set of classes can be easily established in D. (since 
> Tango)
> I would like to encourage you and the DDBI team to have a look at:
> 
> http://swinglabs.org/docs/frameworks/databuffer/index.jsp
> HTH, Bjoern

We'll likely try to push some of that down to a lower level if we can; 
get it out of the client code if possible.

> 
> A personal note
> Having a visual 2 way database design and maintenance tool using DDBI 
> creating data encapsulation and binding code based on f.i. a databuffer 
> api will make the DSL discussion obsolete.

Yes, agreed.


> next (the redux discussion)
> Andrei is a Nerd, in no case he is a pragmatic programmer; Of course a 
> financial Institute like M. Chase will not modify the DB design 2 times 
> a week, but 1) there are more dynamic markets and 2) during the 
> development life cycle, means  from version 0 to 1 this happens quit 
> often and it is a pain to writing hard-wired db code.
> 
> Bjoern