standard library vs standard interfaces

[Bill Baxter]

Kirk McDonald wrote:
> Bill Baxter wrote:
>> Kyle Furlong wrote:
>>> Lionello Lunesu wrote:
>>>> "Hasan Aljudy" <hasan.aljudy at gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:ep0kmq$1csj$1 at digitaldaemon.com...
>>>>
>>>>> According to my last char with them on their irc (about 3 weeks 
>>>>> ago), Tango doesn't conform to Phobos' interface; which is really 
>>>>> unfortunate IMO.
>>>>
>>>> I agree.. It makes a switch to Tango unnecessarily complicated.
>>>>
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>
>>> On the other hand, Tango was designed from the ground up to have a 
>>> coherent, logical interface. Perhaps it should be the standard that 
>>> *Phobos* has to conform to? :-)
>>
>> I can understand tango wanting to claim legitimacy by taking over the 
>> 'std' package namespace, but I think there are still some options that 
>> allow interop.
>>
>> For one, Tango could choose a different top-level package that still 
>> sounds very legitimate, like d.* or lib.*.
>>
>> Or Tango could make sure all it's std.* subpackages have different 
>> names from existing phobos ones.  Like std.math2 instead of std.math.  
>> [Ok, that makes me barf even though I suggested it]
>>
>> Or Tango could have an installer that allowed installing as both std.* 
>> and/or tango.* depending on whether you need to interop with phobos.
>>
>> Or Tango could have an installer that moves *phobos* over to the 
>> namespace phobos.*.  At least that would allow an easy way to update 
>> old code by search and replace of "std." with "phobos."
>>
>> --bb
> 
> Tango uses the tango.* namespace. For a while, Phobos was still 
> available as phobos.*, but I believe it was removed because no one 
> really used it (and it was never "officially" supported, anyway). With 
> sufficient demand, I bet it could be added back in.
> 

Ok, then I misunderstood what the OP's problem was then.  He wants Tango 
to be a strict superset of Phobos?  Ick.  No thanks.  I agree that old 
programs should be able to keep using phobos even after Tango is 
installed, but I don't see why Tango should be required to follow the 
haphazard 'design-by-accretion' API of Phobos.

--bb