Do we need a time-out in D evolution?
Clay Smith
clayasaurus at gmail.com
Tue Jun 5 13:34:57 PDT 2007
eao197 Wrote:
> I'm watching for discussions 'Stepping back and looking at constness from
> another angle' here and 'resizeable arrays: T[new]' & 'preparing for
> const, final, and invariant' in digitalmars.D.announce and I'm sad. I
> occasionally locked to D may be from 2003 -- it was a constantly changing
> language. At the end of 2006 I thought that D is stable enough to start to
> use it. And in Jan 2007 the v.1.000 went out. I thought that in near time
> D would have only bug fix releases and it is a time when various tools for
> D (like libraries and IDEs) would be produced.
>
> But I was wrong.
>
> What we have now? The language which keeps their evolution. Lack of
> libraries, lack of tools, lack of documentation (books and tutorials). As
> a consequence -- lack of users. And we don't get much new users and new
> applications without new libraries/tools/documentation.
>
> As a programmer I need a stable language. A language in which I can write
> a domain-specific library and forget about its maintenace for three of
> five years (as for some of my C++ libraries those I wrote in 2002-2003). I
> need to write applications and because of that I need a quality and stable
> compiler, a quality and stable standard library, and quality third party
> libraries. And third party libraries' writters need a stable tools too.
>
> But now, when I'm writting some D code, I know that in near feature the
> next D version will be here. And that version broke my code because of
> consts and new syntax of resizeable arrays. So why to start a new big
> project on D if its codebase will be obsolete in few months?
>
> And I'm affraid that after adding consts/final/invariant support to D the
> language keeps their envolution :(
>
> Yes consts/final/invariant is a great addition to the language. But D now
> is very powerful language. It is now more powerful than C++0x will be. So
> may be it is better to stop add new features and make a stable platform
> for library/tools writters at first and then for applications writters?
> AFAIK, every successful languages were going such way -- the good initial
> release and some new releases later with years of stability beetwen them.
> And I'm affraid that C++0x will be here before D would get a stable
> language with enough libraries and tools.
>
> May be it is better to concentrate on improvement of the current
> implementation (fast precise GC instead of the current conservative GC,
> for example) instead of introducing incompatible changes in the language?
>
> And my main question is: will be D a constanly changing language or will
> be there some time-outs in its evolution?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Yauheni Akhotnikau
D 1.0 is locked, the features you are talking about are D 2.0 features.
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