Why is 2.0 in the works already?
Georg Wrede
georg at nospam.org
Mon Jun 18 18:25:34 PDT 2007
Stewart Gordon wrote:
> After a few years of work, it was only the beginning of this year that
> we reached 1.0.
>
> Yet there's already been quite a bit of talk about 2.0, and now even an
> alpha release.
>
> What's going on here? There's still the majority of d1.0blocker
> nominees, including such quite serious ones as 302 and 677. Shouldn't
> we work towards getting 1.0 finished first?
>
> Stewart.
Well, Stewart, I'm as much out of the loop as anybody. So, all I can
respond to this with is pure conjecture, personal beliefs, and a 5+ year
history in this NG.
Looks to me like Walter nailed 1.0 as a result of mob pressure. We were
all getting fed up with D continuously staying a moving target. Any
serious developer considering D for the company would simply ignore D as
long as you couldn't guess a month ahead what's goint into the next
release. And at the same time some serious bugs kept on not being fixed.
Not to mention a few pets that stayed in the language despite of
unanimos and animous resentment from the community.
So, D1.0 came out. IIRC, it was a pretty arbitrary decision, based on a
date, never a feature set becoming completed. It would've been quite ok
but for the fact that, precisely at that instant the things about meta
programming got seeded and instantly gained momentum beyond anybody's
expectations. And, just when that almost got settled, we then got Andrei
in the team, and avenues to heaven suddenly became within actual reach.
You and I both know that when developing a major app, we tend to fix
first the interesting and challenging issues, and only after everything
else is done, then to tend to the mundane, small, and labourious things.
While Walter is superhuman, seems he's still got a few human traits
left. (No offense here, Senna and Schumacher weren't perfect either.)
Finally, we have to remember that Walter is doing this frackin' alone.
There are few other persons who could've handled it at all, and all
along he's even keeping his marriage intact. There's a bullet proof man
for you if I ever saw one!
If it were in my power, I'd pay for a couple of talented programmers to
debug and finish D1.0 for Walter, so he could give 100% to D2 with Andrei.
But frankly, I'm really getting concerned with this issue. D is going
down on Tiobe, the regular professional developer (who should be our
concern number one, by a wide margin(!)) is getting increasingly
bewildered as to what version to use, and whether it is at all feasible
to jump an erratically moving fast train for dependable access to his
target.
And it's not only a matter of sharing resources between D1 and D2, it's
also a matter of presenting the entire setup to the new comer. There
really ought to be some web pages carefully and _prominently_ describing
what to do if one belongs to the (for us remote) group of Actual Users
of the language.
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