D const design rationale
Oskar Linde
oskar.lindeREM at OVEgmail.com
Tue Jun 26 13:00:56 PDT 2007
Walter Bright skrev:
> Oskar Linde wrote:
>> Walter Bright skrev:
>>> OF wrote:
>>>> Walter Bright Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BLS wrote:
>>>>>> I am afraid you will not like this idea, but not afraid enough. <g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not using a single keyword "const_" adding a number 1, 2, 3 to
>>>>>> represent :
>>>>>> invariant, final, readonlyview.
>>>>>> the higher the number the higher (the stronger) the const.
>>>>>> means : const_3 == invariant;
>>>>>> At least a mental help, IMO; somehow borrowed from Modula 2
>>>>>> processes.
>>>>> You're right, I don't like the idea <g>.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious. Was 'readonly'
>>>
>>> readonly is a synonym for const, so no improvement there.
>>
>> Read-only isn't synonymous with constant.
>
> Consider ROM, i.e. "Read Only Memory".
Yes, there are cases where the meaning of read-only and constant
overlap. You could even argue that the overlapping meanings are large
enough to make the words synonymous, but that is irrelevant to the
discussion.
What is relevant is which word does best describe the properties the
D2.0 'const' has? IMHO, read-only wins by a large margin. Read-only
describes everything 'const' is, while the generally accepted meaning of
constant is a poor fit.
This has been irking me for quite some time, and I believe it is the
reason the final-const-invariant thing feels so awkward (to me). The
design has been carefully considered and is quite likely the best
possible given the requirements. However, the use of "const" to mean
read-only sticks out like a turd in a punch bowl (pardon the expression).
People argue that of the different meanings of "const" in C++ (that you
like to point out), the non-constant meaning is the worst and most
confusing. Still, the only meaning for "const" that D inherit from C++
is that one.
<parenthesis>
I've never heard anyone complain about "const" as a "storage class",
like in:
const double e = 2.7182818284590452354;
const double pi = 3.14159265358979323846;
<parenthesis>
I believe *many* people would be *much* less confused and have a *much*
easier time acceping and grasping the D const behavior if better
keywords were used. "What? Const means it can change???"
So I plead: Please reconsider the keywords. The implications of not
doing that are severe. The publics acceptance of D is at stake.
What if you could say, "Look: We fixed C++'s const. Const now really
means constant -- not could-actually-change and you will be damned if
you assume anything else". This is a hypothetical scenario of changing
final-const-invariant -> final-readonly-const. There could possibly be
even better choices of keywords.
Apologies for being so harsh (and hyperbolic), but I feel this is (as
strange as it may sound) a quite important issue.
/Oskar
More information about the Digitalmars-d
mailing list