Can we please have digitalmars.D.phobos ?

[pragma]

Bill Baxter wrote:
> pragma wrote:
>> BCS wrote:
>>> Reply to Anders,
>>>
>>>> Alexander Panek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *hint* I think a d.D.Tango newsgroup would be appreciated, too!
>>>>> *hint*
>>>>>
>>>> But Tango already has a forum ?
>>>> http://dsource.org/projects/tango/forums
>>>>
>>>> --anders
>>>>
>>>
>>> And off we go again to debate the reason that NG's/forums are the 
>>> stupidest/only way to go for on-line dialog.
>>>
>>> As for me and my self, I will not use forums.
>>
>> Oh c'mon BCS... /everyone's/ doing it. ;)
>>
>> Out of curiosity, why the strong dislike of the forum system?  Is it 
>> too log-in happy, or is it more of the "my interface or the highway" 
>> disposition of the beast?
>>
>> The reason why I ask is I'd like to write RSS output for TracForums 
>> sometime in the future.  If there's actually some people that dsource 
>> isn't reaching for lack of an alternate interface, then I'm all for 
>> pushing up the priority a bit. :)
> 
> For me it's the speed issue.  Web pages just take a long time to load. 
> Dsource is much better now after the hardware upgrades, but still 
> there's no way a forum with all its frames and images and fancy layouts 
> can beat the speed of what is basically the download of raw text from a 
> server.
> 
> And maybe there's an information density issue a bit too.  Forums tend 
> to have a lot of empty space on the screen.  They fill up the screen 
> with a bunch of blank space, and then are forced to put a big row of 
> links to more pages of the stuff that wouldn't fit [prev|1|2|3|4|5|next] 
> at the bottom.
> 
> Forums also seem to encourage people to make frivolous 'me too' comments 
> for some reason, also contributing to the lack of information density.

Point well taken.  It's kind of like saying that "All web forums are 
just broken implementations of NNTP", which isn't entirely untrue.  I've 
seen very well designed forums that are basically online newsreaders. 
Then again I've also seen forums that looked like Myspace threw up all 
over the screen: 80% signature banners*, 15% "F1rst p0$t", 5% actual 
content.


(* Today we salute you, Mr. Anime Forum Poster Guy.  Not enough people 
believe that Naruto is "da bomb", or that cabbits are so darn cute. 
That's why you have a blazing 500x200 pixel animated Gif in your 
signature; besides, small files are for wimps.  Now, the rest of us can 
bask in the glory of your homage to Pokemon, every... single... time... 
you... post.  So here's to you, Mr. Anime Forum Poster Guy. )