Tango quibbles - please write tickets so we can track them

Regan Heath regan at netmail.co.nz
Mon Sep 17 08:29:32 PDT 2007


Brad Anderson wrote:
> Alexander Panek wrote:
>> Janice Caron wrote:
>>> On 9/17/07, Sean Kelly <sean at f4.ca> wrote:
>>>> A more accurate analogy still, however, is to compare a software library
>>>> to a tool.  In the construction trades I believe you'll find that
>>>> complex tools are often customized by the user and craftsmen often even
>>>> submit feedback to tool designers in an attempt to improve the
>>>> suitability of tools for the work involved.  Spare time typically isn't
>>>> an issue because the time spent is a part of work, not leisure.  In
>>>> fact, some of Tango's users are actually involved in commercial
>>>> projects.  I only wish I had the time to respond to their requests and
>>>> bug reports that I would if maintaining Tango were my job.  Truth be
>>>> told, Tango is already more popular than I expected it would be.
>>> I disagree, because in this instance, nobody asked me for feedback.
>>> Instead, Kris asked me to *COMMIT MY SPARE TIME* and *HELP WITH THE
>>> DOCUMENTATION*. That's what I said no to. I did not say no to giving
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> If you want to make the tool analogy, I'm not even using the damn
>>> tool! Instead, I looked at it, said "I don't think I'll be using it",
>>> and then the tool designer said "So help me improve it a bit", so I
>>> said "I ain't got time, mate, sorry". End of analogy.
>>>
>>> If you guys are trying to make me feel guilty about this, it's not
>>> going to work. If you don't like my analogies - fine! But for crying
>>> out loud do we really have to spend several zillion posts trying to
>>> argue about whether or not the analogy works? I was just trying to
>>> explain why I said no, that's all. I didn't realise doing so was going
>>> to cause so much grief.
>> Well, actually you have been ranting about Tango (i.e.: Tango developers
>> not following the D Style Guide, not trying to be anyhow compatible with
>> Phobos and especially your phrase about the development of Tango: "I
>> wish they hadn't done that"). You didn't quite make a valid point why
>> you don't like Tango (besides the style, which has its [well thought
>> through] reason). That's ok, but giving constructive critique would have
>> been a better way to spend time - as opposed to ranting -, which is the
>> whole point of this discussion, I think.
> 
> Don't feed the troll!

That's unfair IMO.  I reckon this thread has lived long enough, it 
should just die right about here.

Regan



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