The Death of D. (Was Tango vs Phobos)

[superdan]

Christopher Wright Wrote:

> Walter Bright wrote:
> > Christopher Wright wrote:
> >> A number of modules in phobos/internal are marked public domain. Are 
> >> you asking for Tango's internals to be placed in the public domain? 
> >> That also is a bit much to ask.
> > 
> > Why is it a bit much to ask?
> 
> The BSD license allows anyone to do anything with the work as long as 
> the authors get proper recognition. The one incentive to distribute the 
> work is this recognition (besides encouraging others to help with the 
> project).
> 
> If you're not going to take any Tango code and claim that it is yours, 
> then the BSD license shouldn't cause any problems for you. If you 
> require public domain, that implies that the BSD license causes problems 
> for you. That implies that you're going to steal code.

you're not following what walt says eh. his problem is not he wanna steal and get away with it. problem is that he doesn't wanna be accused of stealing. poop man. he got accused before even lookin' at the gorram thing. also his problem is not he doesn't wanna acknowledge whodunit. i grepped around phobos and there's many names in there. there's even a guy whos name is in there tho all his stuff has been rewritten since.

what walt wanna is look at tango without fear that some dood will cry he stole his code. after all there's only this many ways you can do trivial sh... stuff like async i/o and logging and containers. slander comes easily and goes not so easily. is he paranoid? sure as hell he is. oh, wait. some dood _did_ cry walt stole (thru brad) his precious soon as they was within a hundred miles. all this while walt is known to give credit down to the dog pooping in the driveway walt was looking at when he came with an idea. give me an intercoursing break.

> I don't believe that you would do so. But by requiring Tango to be 
> placed in the public domain, you're allowing everyone else to do so.

he didn't require tango to be placed in the public domain. he asked for the same deal he gave to tango. actually he didn't even ask. he just mentioned what it takes for him to look at the code.

> >> The BSD license is simply public domain with attribution.
> > 
> > No, it is not. Public Domain code is not copyrighted and does not 
> > require a license.
>  >
> >> So what is the issue with using it? Phobos already uses it. Just with 
> >> your name as the copyright holder.
> >>
> >> Or do you want an agreement to allow relicensing of Phobos and Tango, 
> >> let's say to incompatible licenses, and still allow Phobos and Tango 
> >> to share code afterward?
> >>
> >> It's unclear what you want or need that you don't already have.
> > 
> > The problems are two:
> > 
> > 1. Phobos has already been accused of stealing code from Tango. 
> > Therefore, I would like explicit permission from the Tango team. I am 
> > not going to take code from Tango and put it in Phobos without explicit 
> > permission from the Tango team. Any hint of Phobos not having a clean 
> > legal pedigree will impair its adoption.
> 
> The BSD license is explicit permission. Or do you intend to redistribute 
> Tango code without proper attribution?

no. he just wants to escape the tyranny of slander. he's just worried that a tyrangot will _claim_ walt redistributed tango code without proper attribution.