[OT] - does IP exist?

[Lars Ivar Igesund]

Yigal Chripun wrote:

> Jb wrote:
>> "Yigal Chripun" <yigal100 at gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:g8adb5$f92$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>> Copyright is about some person A decides to give the information TO
>>> person B AND ALSO forcefully deny that person B to make the same
>>> decision for themselves.
>> 
>> No it's not. That's not it at all.
>> 
>> For example I can give you a recording of a song I wrote. You could work
>> out the tune and melody, and then teach the song to other people. You can
>> even perform the song in public. (at least in the UK).
> 
> that's irrelevant.
>> 
>> If i gave you a book I wrote you could share the information in the book
>> with other people. You can talk about it, tell them about, you could even
>> write your own book on the subject.
> 
> again irrelevant.
>> 
>> What you cant do is copy my book and give it to other people, nor can you
>> copy my book and pass it off as your own work.
> 
> two things:
> A) I now have a copy of your book which I should be able to do what ever
> I want with it - including copying it, however you just said I can't
> copy it. hence, you prevented me from doing whatever I want  with it. Do
> you need this to be spelled formally with math?
> 
> B) passing off someone else's work as my own is not and should never be
> connected with copyright. The fact that OSS licenses need to specify
> this in the copyright is ridiculous. this should be by default. No
> matter if the work is entirely closed source by MS or put in public
> domain by Walter Bright, you should never be able to steal someone
> else's credit.
> This should be handled (I think) by slender laws or something like that.
> 
>> 
>> Copyright does not stop you sharing information. It stops you copying
>> other peoples work.
>> 
>> What will it take to get you to understand this?
>> 
> 
> when you buy a chair, you own the chair and can do what ever you want
> with it including manufacturing by yourself a copy of it and give it
> away for free. you cannot copyright a chair. copyright prevents that for
> software hence limiting my rights (the inherit rights of the public).
> this limitation needs to be justifiable and this is the core of the
> argument. What will it take to get you to understand that??

Wow, bad example. Copying a chair is indeed illegal and proven to be so in
court. Take the Stressless chair by Ekornes as an example.

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