Tango vs Phobos

Bent Rasmussen IncredibleShrinkingSphere at Gmail.com
Sat Aug 23 03:52:08 PDT 2008


There is a stable language, it's called D1.

D2 should not be preempted by standard libraries, except experimental ones, 
built to assist the language design, so it is known to be sound. It is great 
to have two experts like Andrei and Walter work in tandem in a feedback 
loop. I'm also enthusiastic about the "leave no issue behind" mantra - 
within limits of course. It's sure to make D2 more coherent, dispite it's 
plethora of features.

It looks to me as if there are new libraries being built side-by-side with 
D2. At least foundational ones. It is hard to build higher-level ones when 
D2 is not stable; wasted work, one might say.

Also, I'm not sure what "misses basic practical experience stuff" means in 
the context of Andrei and Walter.

My newb impression at least :)

Bent

> Yes, and even if i know this has been discussed to death, i'll allow 
> myself to add i really dislike the direction D is taking. D's homepage 
> states it is driven by practical experience and not academical feats. 
> Hasn't a solid standard library been shown over time to be absolutely 
> necessary for any language to become popular and highly usable? It seems 
> like D is taking the direction of adding lots of sugar features, and 
> misses basic practical experience stuff. All that sugar is totally useless 
> if D doesn't even have a standard library upon which everything can be 
> built 




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