Value Preservation and Polysemy -> context dependent integer literals

Sergey Gromov snake.scaly at
Thu Dec 4 17:53:11 PST 2008

Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:54:32 -0800, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

> Fawzi Mohamed wrote:
>> On 2008-12-01 22:30:54 +0100, Walter Bright <newshound1 at> 
>> said:
>>> Fawzi Mohamed wrote:
>>>> On 2008-12-01 21:16:58 +0100, Walter Bright 
>>>> <newshound1 at> said:
>>>>> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>>>> I'm very excited about polysemy. It's entirely original to D,
>>>>> I accused Andrei of making up the word 'polysemy', but it turns out 
>>>>> it is a real word! <g>
>>>> Is this the beginning of discriminating overloads also based on the 
>>>> return values?
>>> No. I think return type overloading looks good in trivial cases, but 
>>> as things get more complex it gets inscrutable.
>> I agreee that return type overloading can go very bad, but a little bit 
>> can be very nice.
>> Polysemy make more expressions typecheck, but I am not sure that I want 
>> that.
>> For example with size_t & co I would amost always want a stronger 
>> typechecking, as if size_t would be a typedef, but with the usual rules 
>> wrt to ptr_diff, size_t,... (i.e. not cast between them).
>> This because mixing size_t with int, or long is almost always 
>> suspicious, but you might see it only on the other platform (32/64 bit), 
>> and not on you own.
>> Something that I would find nice on the other hand is to have a kind of 
>> integer literals that automatically cast to the type that makes more sense.
> Wouldn't value range propagation take care of that (and actually more)? 
> A literal such as 5 will have a support range [5, 5] which provides 
> enough information to compute the best type down the road.

It sounds very nice and right, except it's incompatible with Cee.

Well, you can safely reduce bit count so that assigning "1025 & 15" to
"byte" would go without both a cast and a warning/error.  But you cannot
grow bitcount beyond the C limits, that is, you cannot return long for
"1024 << 30."  You should probably report an error, and you should
provide some way to tell the compiler, "i mean it."

In the worst case, any shift, multiplication or addition will result in
a compiler error.  Do I miss something?

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