[~ot] why is programming so fun?

Bruce Adams tortoise_74 at yeah.who.co.uk
Mon Jun 2 14:43:25 PDT 2008


On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:12:57 +0100, BCS <ao at pathlink.com> wrote:

> Reply to Aarti_pl,
>
>> Walter Bright pisze:
>>
>>> Gregor Richards wrote:
>>>
>>>> and so they think "Wow, given the extremely low odds that a
>>>> protozoan would appear by random chance, we must have been created
>>>> by a higher power!" Idiots.
>>>>
>>> My difficulty with the higher power explanation is one is left
>>> wondering how the higher power came to be. Did a higher higher power
>>> create it? And you know where that is going <g>.
>>>
>> This argument is rather easy to answer <g>, as it is based on
>> assumption that "higher power" has to have beginning. If you remove
>> this assumption your question would become pointless. (Christians
>> claims indeed that God has no beginning). Additionally you can ask
>> similar question: what was before 'Big Bang' and you have same problem
>> to answer it.
>>
>
> nice. One view even holds that the concept of "everlasting" with it's  
> inherent binding to time is inapplicable to god. Like the god as an  
> author model (see my other reply); Where was the author before the first  
> page of the book, and where does he go after the last page? The question  
> is as meaningless as; what is the conversion rate from the color red to  
> US dollars?
>
Not quite as meaningless. If you go with the author theory then you can  
learn
about the universe outside the universe that you thought was all there was.
Though there's only so much you can tell about the author without finding  
a way
to escape the book. Putting the analogy back into physics (as opposed to  
meta-physics)
the universe could be embedded in a metaverse along with many others. The  
physics
of such a metaverse is difficult for us to fathom at present but some  
progress seems
to have been made.



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