[~ot] why is programming so fun?
Daniel Giddings
daniel.giddings at gmail.com
Tue Jun 3 16:56:52 PDT 2008
Gregor Richards wrote:
> Yigal Chripun wrote:
>> one last thing, let's consider god from a logical POV:
>> god is all powerful => God can create a rock no-one can lift => god
>> cannot lift the rock or god cannot create such a rock => contradiction
>
> I hate this argument.
>
> God is all powerful => God can create a rock that he cannot lift => God
> /can/ lift the rock => Not a contradiction because God is exempt from
> logic. Any god which did not create the rules of logic and reason is not
> a god, and any god which did must himself be exempt from them.
>
> - Gregor Richards
I think the problem here is how people view "God": their particular
religious version or a generic concept. These arguments are useful
because mainstream religions do ascribe characteristics like logic,
reasoning, anger, and love to their concept of "God". Of course
mainstream religions are also full of contradictions and ambiguities.
For the general "God" concept, I find it irrelevant because you cannot
possibly know anything about it one way or another - it's a pointless
discussion that gets muddied by people that have a particular view of
what "God" means to them.
I'd rather discuss interesting hypothesis regarding the creation (or
lack of) of the universe, at least some of these *may* be testable at
some time in the future.
:-) Dan
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