[~ot] why is programming so fun?

John Reimer terminal.node at gmail.com
Sun Jun 8 07:09:56 PDT 2008


Hello Me,

> John Reimer wrote:
> 
>> we actually invite significant conflict with no resolution by
>> following this principle.  For example, one person's faith believes
>> sex is ok in marriage, another believes it's ok with any consenting
>> adults, yet another believes it's okay to force sex; another believes
>> homosexuality and lesbianism is normal; eventually another group
>> decides that since all the other forms were determined acceptable,
>> then pedaphilia must be normal too
>> 
> Utter sensationalist twaddle.
> 
> We do not need religion in order for society to impose reasonable
> limits upon personal freedom.
> 
> Secular authorities are perfectly capable and, in fact, have always
> been the ones charged with enforcing laws to ensure I don't kill,
> rape, enslave or prey upon others. Priests (of whatever religion) have
> rarely ever performed this role. And often as not, historically and
> more recently, they have been the perpetrators rather than enforcers
> and have justified their actions in terms of their religion.
> 
> Almost ever sentence of your post is filled with the implicit view
> that you should have the right to impose your views and opinion
> ("beliefs") upon others. Hatred and intolorance for other choices that
> offend *your* "world view".
> 
> Your words are the very opitomy of all that is bad in reeligion. We
> have nothing to discuse.
> 
> b.
> 


Okay.  I accept this as an indication that you don't want to talk about it.  

There is nothing in my words of hate, nor can they be taken as such.  I'm 
afraid you just don't like my explanation.

Do I have as much right to express my views as you do to yours here, even 
though yours ridicule and accuse?  These certainly aren't forced upon you. 
 I am imposing my views no more than you are in this group.  If to present 
them or argue for a worldview is imposing, then no one should be allowed 
to say anything.

-JJR





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