Unofficial wish list status.(Jul 2008)

[Bill Baxter]

superdan wrote:
> Sean Kelly Wrote:
> 
>> == Quote from bearophile (bearophileHUGS at lycos.co)'s article
>>> 4tuu4k002 at sneakemail.com:
>>>> This is the monthly status for the unofficial d wish list:
>>> ...
>>> It's curious to see that many or most of the top desired things don't seem among the list of the next things
>> planned as improvements/changes for the D/DMD. I don't know what this means. Are people asking for
>> unimportant things? Are the D designers smarter? Are the two groups ignoring each other?
>>
>> For better or worse, I don't personally feel that the D designers listen to the D community
>> at all.  Certainly not since D 2.0 was started at any rate.  Or perhaps it's just that my goals
>> with D simply diverged beginning with 2.0.
> 
> wut the heck is ur problem sean, u were the only sane guy left at tango. now u r coming with badmouthing n shit. recently u were like "walter is trying 2 lure people to d2. if that happens, i'm out." where the fuck did that conspiracy theory come from. walter never did anything to put his integrity into question.
> 
> now wuts with this walter doesn't listen shit. whining baby. i'm sayin': walter does listen and does do great shit, the only problem is that most of us don't know what we're talking about and can't remember what we want from 1 moment 2 the next. look at that list. it's a pile of shit with the most prefuckingposterous requests in the fucking history of fucking programming languages. look at vectorization. who the fuck came with that sick idea. hell, std.algorithm does that shit better and nicer and didn't need language changes. the list is a joke. it's not even maintained, d has had tuples for months now. somehow we want progress, n new shit n all but no we want it in d1 backward compatible and with only two extra pieces of shit that vary from 1 person 2 the next and from 1 minute 2 the next. shit.
> 
> if walter were 2 implement all the shitty "features" in the motherfucking list the language would become a fucking pile of dung the size of fucking china. what the fuck. walter is cranking great shit like it's goin' outta style and we throw a fit because we didn't think of it first. we only thought of shitty misfeatures like short syntax for new. now what was that mofo's problem. shit.

The list is definitely a farce.  I think most everyone stopped paying 
attention to it long ago.  I'm not sure why it still gets posted here. 
  A cron job somewhere?

>>> When I think about such matters I remember a quote, usually attributed to Henry Ford: "If I'd asked people what
>> they wanted, they would have said a faster horse."
>>> So maybe D programmers want faster horses, while D developers are inventing/providing cars :-) I don't know.

That's a great quote!  I definitely think Walter believes he's working 
on the car.  But Henry Ford also said:
"Mark my words: A combination airplane and motorcar is coming. You may 
smile. But it will come." (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henry_Ford)

That sounds to me like he was thinking "in our lifetime".  Well it 
hasn't come yet, at least not in a way that I think would have satisfied 
Ford.

It may be that Walter's working on that flying car.

But I certainly don't claim to know which D will turn out to be -- the 
very useful car, or the pie-in-the-sky-never-to-really-pan-out 
combination airplane and motorcar.

--bb