why Unix?

Yigal Chripun yigal100 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 7 14:26:14 PDT 2009


On 07/04/2009 05:29, Christopher Wright wrote:
> Jussi Jumppanen wrote:
>> Replace ls with dir, download the Win32 version of grep, sed, awk and
>> you can run all those tools just fine from the Windows command line,
>> or from within any decent editor.
>>
>> You don't have to go to Unix to find the command line.
>
> The Windows terminal emulator sucks. This is not subject to debate. I
> have never seen a terminal emulator that is worse, and I have never seen
> one that was only slightly better.
>
> There is little incentive in Windows to make commandline utilities. If
> you are using the command line to a significant degree in Windows, you
> are either going to use [possibly incomplete] ports of Unix utilities or
> Cygwin.
>
> If you go through the trouble of finding each of these utilities
> individually, whether ports or written specifically for Windows, you are
> wasting time on a solved problem. A default install of Cygwin or any
> Unix will include these utilities.
>
> Cygwin qualifies as Unix, but it has not been a painless, seamless
> experience for me. It's far easier for me to work under Linux than with
> Cygwin.
>
> If you need to use the command line, you really should use Unix, if it's
> reasonable. The Windows filesystem structure is a source of pain, and
> it's hard to work around. It's hard to get information about interacting
> with the OS from the command line. Windows and Cygwin just isn't that
> great a fit.

ever heard of powershell? it is in fact a superior design for a shell 
compared to most unix shells.

also, have you ever heard of rush? http://rush.heroku.com/



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