YAPP - reminder
aarti_pl
aarti at interia.pl
Mon Aug 10 00:07:10 PDT 2009
Jeremie Pelletier pisze:
> aarti_pl Wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> This is just another reminder about ongoing voting about properties:
>>
>> http://www.igsoft.net/dpolls/index.php
>>
>> Current results:
>>
>> * about 68% of responders want to have special syntax for properties
>> * from people wanting new syntax most people want C# syntax (26 votes)
>> and then almost ex-aequo syntax with "property" keyword (25 votes)
>> * seems that only one person from 88 voters like opGet_<property> syntax
>> * quite a big group of responders (~32%) wants just fix problems in
>> existing property syntax
>> * 60% of people (but only 75 voters) want to remove possibility to omit
>> parentheses from function call.
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Comments:
>>
>> I think that these results are already quite representative, but poll
>> should be open till tomorrow. So there is still chance to vote.
>>
>>
>> There appeared other proposals from time where poll was created. If you
>> like something other than options in poll, then I think you should vote
>> for "I want other syntax than above" option.
>>
>>
>> Personally I don't like so much C# syntax because of magic "value"
>> variable, which refers to property value used in setter. There is
>> another place in D where such a magic values appears: it is in variadic
>> parameters functions. IMHO such a magic parameters could stay if there
>> would be general syntax for getting compile time/runtime parameters of
>> functions. In such a case there would be no more "magic" in language but
>> rather clear rules how to read function parameter values using reflections.
>>
>> Currently my choice would be something like proposal in DIP6
>> (attributes). Using '@' at the beginning of attributes could be also
>> used in another place: in imports it could be used to escape keywords,
>> so that following would be possible:
>> --
>> import std. at traits; //then we could remove underscores from __traits
>> import d. at for.masses;
>> --
>> It's most general way of annotating source code with special compiler
>> understandable meanings. Looking at result of poll & also seeing many NG
>> posts I believe that most of D community prefers generality over
>> one-time hackish solutions. And that's something to think about it... :-)
>>
>>
>> It seems that almost no one likes "ugly" functions with underscores and
>> messing operator names with property names. I am not so surprised about
>> underscores at all: it was common practice in C++, but it's not so
>> common in other modern languages. But then why in D we have so many of
>> them although no one really likes it (__traits, foreach_reverse,
>> _argptr, _arguments)?
>>
>>
>> And finally: why polls are not integral part of digitalmars web page? It
>> took me only one hour to set up this poll...
>>
>>
>> BR
>> Marcin Kuszczak
>> (aarti_pl)
>
> Oops, I got the only one "keep things as they are now" vote haha.
> I meant to vote for the one with resolved +=.
>
> Took you an hour to set it up? Did you have to code it from scratch?
No, it's ready to use script. See here:
http://www.dbscripts.net/poll/
BR
Marcin Kuszczak
(aarti_pl)
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