Tuples, C#, Java, language design

[grauzone]

justme wrote:
> bearophile Wrote:
> 
>> C# will probably not follow the route of stagnation of Java for some more time, thanks to Mono too. I don't like that string interpolation syntax because it looks unsafe, and that design of tuples can be improved, but they are listening to programmes (even if they risk creating a mudball language):
>> http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/12/Mono-CSharp-Ex
>>
>> More on those tuples:
>> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Dec-23.html
>>
>> Eventually it will be quite useful to have some very well designed multi-return support in D (like those tuples, but better).
> 
> Doesn't D2 already have tuples in Phobos. D has the comma operator which C# doesn't so such syntax is not possible in D, me thinks.

But tuples in D really suck. Compared to other languages, D tuples feel 
inflexible, stiff, and complicated.