Tuples, C#, Java, language design

[justme]

grauzone Wrote:

> justme wrote:
> > bearophile Wrote:
> > 
> >> C# will probably not follow the route of stagnation of Java for some more time, thanks to Mono too. I don't like that string interpolation syntax because it looks unsafe, and that design of tuples can be improved, but they are listening to programmes (even if they risk creating a mudball language):
> >> http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/12/Mono-CSharp-Ex
> >>
> >> More on those tuples:
> >> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Dec-23.html
> >>
> >> Eventually it will be quite useful to have some very well designed multi-return support in D (like those tuples, but better).
> > 
> > Doesn't D2 already have tuples in Phobos. D has the comma operator which C# doesn't so such syntax is not possible in D, me thinks.
> 
> But tuples in D really suck. Compared to other languages, D tuples feel 
> inflexible, stiff, and complicated.

The burden of proving your claims is still there. Isn't D meritocracy - nobody listens your opinions unless you post compiler / stdlib patches. I believe the Phobos tuple classes are sufficient until a better system arrives in D3 or D4. D2 book is almost finished so you need to write your patches against D3 now.