Any chance to call Tango as Extended Standard Library

John Reimer terminal.node at gmail.com
Sun Jan 18 13:50:54 PST 2009


Hello Andrei,

> John Reimer wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andrei,
>> 
>>> IUnknown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is why I request you to consult other independent people and
>>>> see what their take on it is. From a library developer's
>>>> perspective you would invariably pit the decision against the
>>>> difficulty in doing it. Hence my suggestion to find out what users
>>>> would really need and then try to implement it.
>>>> 
>>> This I completely disagree with. 360 degrees :o). Good stuff comes
>>> from good vision, not from doing what people think they want (see
>>> PHP, American cars, and taking dating advice from female friends). I
>>> won't continue this because it will go the way philosophical debates
>>> usually go => a long exchange of long messages leading to nowhere in
>>> particular.
>>> 
>>> Andrei
>>> 
>> Oversimplification.  Good stuff does not always come from good vision
>> if it is poorly managed.
>> 
> Agreed. I'll also note I didn't claim "always".
> 


:-)


>> IUnknown had a fair point that you had the option of taking or
>> leaving.  The suggestion was to look for advice for a problem to
>> which you admitted having no solution.
>> 
>> Obviously, you needn't take the advice.  But reinterpreting his
>> statement to a form that is absurd is not fair.  You could have just
>> as easily interpreted him as saying, "look over some historical
>> examples and see if there are similar solutions to this problem from
>> another's perspective".
>> 
> Oh, I didn't mean to demean what he said in any way. But taking his
> advice at this point in time is incompatible with my view, for the
> lack of a better word. Most of the issue is that for the most part
> said "view" is not palpable: it's the ranges I haven't implemented
> yet, the I/O I haven't designed yet, the containers I haven't
> implemented yet, and the threading library we haven't designed yet. At
> the same time, Tango as defined today itself does not take advantage
> of D2. So I'd find it odd to ask people at this point whether they'd
> choose between a library that essentially doesn't exist yet, and one
> that might improve by going through one more iteration. It's just too
> early for D2.
> 
> Andrei
> 


Ok, I see.


-JJR





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