Give me a break

superdan super at dan.org
Wed Jul 1 10:52:41 PDT 2009


yigal chripun Wrote:

> Kagamin Wrote:
> 
> > yigal chripun Wrote:
> > 
> > > there is no defined system for the development of D. even MS has a well defined plan for their .net platform. where's the plan for D? where the process to define that plan? 
> > > Either you need to have a plan or you need to have a community driven process (Java JSRs, Python PEPs). 
> > 
> > How the development plan relates to tango? There's a plan to port tango to D2, though it proved to be troublesome. And I think, tango is supposed to be community driven.
> 
> the lack of proper planning relates to everything:
> blocking bugs that affect tango for D2, licensing issues - everyone has his own prefered license and there is no central body to manage that (there is a GOOD reason why all GNU code is copyrighted by the FSF), no plan as to what features will be implemented, how and when  (latest example - Bartosz' concurrency design for D which was rejected by Andrei), lack of planning for the standard library user APIs - Andrei rewrote half of phobos - with no regard for integration efforts with tango, and so forth. 
> 
> It really doesn't matter how good a programmer Andrei is if there is no consideration for the end user in his code. It doesn't matter how fast a car you can build if it doesn't fit on the standard state roads. 
> D feels like patient zero of NIH syndrom where everything is a one man show. no fucking amount of colaboration is even taken into account. 
> 
> The only person here that undersands this is Don and nobody listens to him, so fucking what if he needs to copy-paste all his code to support the tango-phobos dichotomy, right? 
> 

d00d. cussin's pathetic. don't suit ya. wut's yer real problem?



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