Reddit: why aren't people using D?

[Andrei Alexandrescu]

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.org> wrote in message 
> news:h4kkn3$14pv$1 at digitalmars.com...
>> But what I want is to come with a new design that adds minimum aggravation 
>> on the learning programmer. If they know how to define a method, they must 
>> know how to define a property. None of that property blah { get ... set 
>> ... } crap is necessary.
>>
> 
> I can't be nice about this: Any programmer who has *any* aggrivation 
> learning any even remotely sane property syntax is an idiot, period. They'd 
> have to be incompetent to not be able to look at an example like this:
> 
> // Fine, I'll throw DRY away:
> int _width;
> int width
> {
>     get { return _width; }
>     set(v) { _width = v; }
> }
> 
> And immediately know exactly how the poroperty syntax works.

Sure. My point is that with using standard method definition syntax 
there's no need for even looking over an example.

> Plus, damn near every other common language out there these days has some 
> form of property syntax (except maybe C++, but that's just a steaming pile 
> anyway, and anyone who can get used to that garbage is going to be among the 
> last people to hit stumbling blocks over a modern property syntax). So prior 
> experience with real property syntax is extremely common. Plus, none of the 
> people using those langauges have had trouble with these property syntaxes 
> anyway. It's a complete non-issue.

Java too I guess.

> While we're at it, let's just throw away for and foreach, after all, there 
> can't possibly be any point to those if you already have while! Why should 
> we give people new to D the aggrivation of having to learn for and foreach 
> syntax?

Removing foreach would make code more verbose. Adding property crap 
would make code more verbose.


Andrei