[OT] Convention of Communication

Vladimir Panteleev thecybershadow at gmail.com
Thu Jun 4 11:43:54 PDT 2009


On Sat, 30 May 2009 00:26:02 +0300, Nick Sabalausky <a at a.a> wrote:

> "Simen Kjaeraas" <simen.kjaras at gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:op.uun3kgep1hx7vj at biotronic-pc.osir.hihm.no...
>> Nick Sabalausky <a at a.a> wrote:
>>
>>> "Manfred Nowak" <svv1999 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9C197A654DF6Dsvv1999hotmailcom at 65.204.18.192...
>>>> At least a quarter of the last postings here do not follow the usenet
>>>> convention of proper identifying the author---which is the full name  
>>>> of
>>>> the author and a valid email adress of the author.
>>>
>>> Are you kidding me? There isn't a chance in hell I'd put a valid email
>>> address for myself on a newsgroup posting. "Hey bots! Please spam me!".
>>
>> I'm doing it. Mostly 'cause of gmail's filter being good. I think two
>> spam messages have made it past it since I got the account, some 4 years
>> ago. 'course, if you got a crappy mail provider, it might not be as good
>> an idea.
>>
>
> I've tried a number of filters over the years, even popular and
> highly-respected ones, but never found one that didn't give me both
> false-positives and false-negatives. The way I do things now, despite  
> having
> no filters, I also have no spam at all and (naturally) no valid messages
> accidentally being rejected. So I see the filters as little more than
> clumbsy bandage-appoach.

Offline (stand-alone) filters can't stand up to filters maintained by a  
multi-billion-dollar company, powered by instant user feedback and  
analysis from millions of accounts (I'm talking about the "mark as (not)  
spam" buttons). Did you know that Gmail actually scans image attachments  
with OCR? (The Viagra spammers started sending e-mails with some  
markov-chain-generated body and the actual advertisement on a generated  
picture).

A few years ago I was also paranoid about leaving my e-mail address in  
plain text on the web, until I noticed that D's Bugzilla doesn't attempt  
to hide them (I even filed a ticket about this, which got closed a year  
later or so). Today I get over 1000 spam e-mails per month, out of which  
about one or two gets past the filter.

By the way, you can set up Gmail to retrieve mail from your other inbox  
(assuming you don't use some webmail-only service like Yahoo) and pass it  
through its spam filter.

-- 
Best regards,
  Vladimir                          mailto:thecybershadow at gmail.com



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