Give me a break

Tom S h3r3tic at remove.mat.uni.torun.pl
Mon Jun 29 15:30:34 PDT 2009


Lutger wrote:
> Tom S wrote:
> 
>> Yigal Chripun wrote:
> (snip)
>>> IMHO, the Tango vs. Phobos licensing issue is the biggest bikeshed color
>>> problem in the D realm and the only people that can solve it are the
>>> tango devs and walter and co. of which Neither are willing to budge.
>> Uhhh... try listening to Tango folks sometimes. They really have tried.
>>
> 
> If you can forgive my ignorance, what is the current Tango/Phobos problem 
> you see and refer to here? Is it related to D1 or also concerns a possible  
> future Tango D2?

I'm mostly a Tango user, not its developer, so I might be misinformed, 
but there doesn't seem to be any licensing issue except a conceptional 
one. The bottom of the following thread has some info: 
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/Any_chance_to_call_Tango_as_Extended_Standard_Library_82239.html

As for other issues - there's very little communication between the 'D 
Team' and the 'Tango Team'. Much could be learned and borrowed from it, 
but you don't see that in Phobos 2. Looks like we're going to end up 
with two 'utility libraries' that are not compatible with one another 
and instead of complementing each other, they offer ways to do the same 
things in a slightly different manner.

IIRC, Tango devs claim that its runtime is better than druntime, which 
also only supports DMD at the moment. And apparently, there's been very 
little contact with Sean lately, so it's a case of 'us' vs 'them' again.

But that's just how I've subjectively received the topic so please take 
it with a grain of salt.


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