Give me a break

superdan super at dan.org
Tue Jun 30 22:25:25 PDT 2009


Sean Kelly Wrote:

> == Quote from Tom S (h3r3tic at remove.mat.uni.torun.pl)'s article
> > Sean Kelly wrote:
> > > == Quote from Tom S (h3r3tic at remove.mat.uni.torun.pl)'s article
> > >
> > >> And apparently, there's been very
> > >> little contact with Sean lately, so it's a case of 'us' vs 'them' again.
> > >
> > > No one has tried to contact me.  I talked with Fawzi a bit shortly after
> > > Druntime was created, but that's it.  I'm too busy to even do the things
> > > I have planned for Druntime anyway, so I'm not about to chase people
> > > down to try add yet more tasks to my list.
> > Here I've based my words on a chat with Lars, but it might be that you
> > being so busy was misinterpreted as not willing to communicate and
> > "acting a bit weird". It might be hard to get it out of him now, as he
> > seems to have given up on NG discussions :(
> 
> For a while, there was an attempt among the Tango folks to make me an
> ambassador of sorts to Walter and Andrei.  I never really understood the
> need for this, and I suggested that whoever wanted to contact whoever
> else simply do so.  Near as I can tell, this made me appear divisive to
> some.  More to the point, when I was working on Tango I acted upon
> my own best judgment and was trusted to do so by those involved.  This
> changed as soon as talk of collaboration began, and the Tango folks
> suggested repeatedly that there must be some sort of group consensus
> before I made any functional runtime change.  There's more, but it's all
> in the same vein.
> 
> To be quite frank, I would walk away from D entirely before I'd let myself
> be put in such a position, and were it not for the fact that I was the only
> person with the ability to resolve some of the issues involved in the
> collaboration discussions, I'd have walked away right then because of the
> pressure the Tango team was putting on me.  If this has earned me a bad
> reputation in some circles, so be it.  I continue to consider Tango support
> when making changes to Druntime, and if the Tango team doesn't intend
> to use Druntime that's really their problem at this point.
> 
> I normally wouldn't air such dirty laundry in public, but this thread shows
> that there's still a lot of confusion about where things stand concerning
> Druntime and Tango, and so I think it may help to at least outline my
> perspective on the issue.  My sincerest hope is that people will let this
> go, and focus their energies on something more productive.

d00d i ain't gettin' it. did u have a fallin' with tango folks? with phobos folks? both? im stoopid. r u still workin' on druntime? if not to whom did u give it. pls clarify.



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