"with" should be deprecated with extreme prejudice

Jason House jason.james.house at gmail.com
Sun May 17 18:20:26 PDT 2009


Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:

> I think "with" is a very dangerous feature due to the way it hides 
> symbols. It essentially makes the feeblest attempt at modular reasoning 
> utterly impossible:
> 
> int x, y;
> with (whatever)
> {
>      y += x;
>      ++x;
> }
> 
> What can be said about such code? Nothing. If whatever has or will ever 
> have fields x or y or both, the names will bind to them; otherwise, 
> they'll bind to the locals. Non-local code dependency at its finest.
> 
> Maintenance of any type that is being used with "with" becomes a very 
> dangerous proposition because it can silently change meaning of code.
> 
> I therefore submit that "with" is an extremely dangerous feature and 
> should be removed from the language. What say you?
> 
> 
> Andrei

How about we keep in D's tradition and outlaw shadowing instead? I use "with" rarely, but appreciate it when I do.



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