D array expansion and non-deterministic re-allocation

Bill Baxter wbaxter at gmail.com
Tue Nov 17 17:00:57 PST 2009


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Bartosz Milewski
<bartosz-nospam at relisoft.com> wrote:
> Walter Bright Wrote:
>
>> BCS wrote:
>> > would you agree that it is not something the programer can predict in
>> > advance?
>>
>> He can, but it is not reasonable to expect him to. But it's still
>> deterministic.
>
> I've been following this discussion about determinism and I think it addresses the problem from the wrong point of view, that of a specific implementation.
>
> My concern is the semantics of the language. As it is defined right now, a conforming implementation is free to use a quantum random number generator to decide whether to re-allocate or not. Is it likely? I don't think so; but the non-determinism is part of the semantics of D arrays.

Then why not just fix the spec to say the behavior has to be deterministic?

--bb



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