removal of cruft from D

[Justin Johansson]

Bill Baxter wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Lars T. Kyllingstad
> <public at kyllingen.nospamnet> wrote:
>> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> "Yigal Chripun" <yigal100 at gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:he6sqe$1dqu$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>>> Based on recent discussions on the NG a few features were
>>>> deprecated/removed from D, such as typedef and C style struct initializers.
>>>>
>>>> IMO this cleanup and polish is important and all successful languages do
>>>> such cleanup for major releases (Python and Ruby come to mind). I'm glad to
>>>> see that D follows in those footsteps instead of accumulating craft like C++
>>>> does.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As part of this trend of cleaning up D before the release of D2, what
>>>> other features/craft should be removed/deprecated?
>>>>
>>>> I suggest reverse_foreach and c style function pointers
>>>>
>>>> please add your candidates for removal.
>>>>
>>> s/reverse_foreach/foreach_reverse/ ;)
>>>
>>> 1. Floating point literals without digits on *both* sides!!! "1.", ".1"
>>> --> Useless hindrance to future language expansion!
>>>
>>> 2. Octal literals! I think it'd be great to have a new octal syntax, or
>>> even better, a general any-positive-inter-base syntax. But until that
>>> finally happens, I don't want "010 == 8" preserved. And I don't think the
>>> ability to have an octal literal is important enough that lacking it for a
>>> while is a problem. And if porting-from-C really has to be an issue, then
>>> just make 0[0-9_]+ an error for a transitionary period (or forever - it'd at
>>> least be better than maintaining "010 == 8").
>> It would definitely be a problem if octal literals disappeared from the
>> language, even if only for a short while. They are pretty much the only
>> sensible way to specify POSIX file permissions.
>>
>>  import core.sys.posix.sys.stat;
>>  ...
>>  chmod("path/to/file", 0755);
> 
> Well you can always do..
> 
> chmod("path/to/file", octal(755));
> 
> --bb

octal(755)?

What's the base-10 identity of that?

decimal(493) or decimal(755)?

base-16 etc.

--Justin