dmd support for IDEs

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Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:07:44 -0300, Leandro Lucarella thusly wrote:

> Walter Bright, el 10 de octubre a las 18:19 me escribiste:
>> In my discussions with companies about adopting D, the major barrier
>> that comes up over and over isn't Tango vs Phobos, dmd being GPL,
>> debugger support, libraries, bugs, etc., although those are important.
>> 
>> It's the IDE.
>> 
>> They say that the productivity gains of D's improvements are
>> overbalanced by the loss of productivity by moving away from an IDE.
>> And what is it about an IDE that is so productive? Intellisense
>> (Microsoft's word for autocompletion).
> 
> I think you've got that answer because they are not using D alread. When
> they start using D, they will start complaining about Phobos vs. Tango,
> debugger support, librararies, bugs, etc. ;) (maybe not DMD being GPL
> though, even when I think it's important).

What can I say, the larger the enterprise, the larger the expectations 
and need for stability. You can try it yourself, any Java 1.4 code from 
2003 can be compiled, debugged, profiled etc. nicely with the most recent 
version of jdk and 3rd party tools. It's also nicely compatible with new 
code. OTOH take some D 1.0 code from 2003 (e.g. the free dool/dui or aba 
games code available online) and try to do *something* with it. Basically 
nothing works. You even have problems with new code as some project 
depends on a specific svn version of tango trunk. There is a lot to be 
done before D is ready for large scale enterprise use.