Goodbye

[Yigal Chripun]

On 12/10/2009 23:27, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Jarrett Billingsley"<kb3ctd2 at yahoo.com>  wrote in message
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>> "Nick B"<nickB at gmail.com>  wrote in message
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>>> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>>>> "Jarrett Billingsley"<jarrett.billingsley at gmail.com>  wrote in message
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>>>>> I'm done. After seeing how Andrei is behaving, I really am done. Bye.
>>>>
>>>> Just to clarify, yes, I will still maintain my current projects. But as
>>>> far as D and its development goes, I am well and truly finished. You do
>>>> your thing, Andrei. Have fun.
>>> For the record, and before you go off into the sunset, what exactly, are
>>> you objecting to ?
>>
>> Hm, could it be years of constant, repeated disappointment with the
>> leadership? The utter lack of community input on many important features?
>> The antiquated, closed development model? Or maybe just the shitty
>> toolchain, shitty rift between "standard" libraries, and shitty
>> third-party libraries?
>
> Anyone here shold be well aware there's been nothing but improvement on
> those fronts. And TDPL is a major key in further improvement.
>
>>
>> But what's really been chafing my ass for the past year or so has been
>> Andrei and his astronomical ego. This is the post that broke *this*
>> camel's back:
>> http://digg.com/d3170vV
>
> You're really overreacting to that. TDPL is *extemely* important to D as a
> whole, not just to Andrei. And, no Walter-bashing intended, but the focus on
> random things like a machine-readable ddoc that provides a minimal benefit
> in lieu of a little bit more on the book was certainly worthy of a "Now wait
> just a minute here" message.
>
you can say the same thing in many different ways. TDPL is important and 
a "Let's focus on more important stuff" message was needed *BUT* the way 
that message was worded is appalling.

ego has nothing to do with being smart.
you can be extremely smart without getting on people's nerves all the time.

>>
>> You might also be interested in these self-written bios by a man who might
>> as well describe himself as the goddamn savior of modern programming
>> practice.
>> http://pastie.org/652008
>> http://pastie.org/private/iyj51x5gjjr3qp6ipatta
>>
>
> Bios usually are self-written (how would the publisher know the author's
> strengths better and be able to write about it better than the author
> themself?), and the whole point of them is to make the person look good to
> help sell a book (or whatever else). They're mini-resume's: the whole point
> is for it to be a sales-sheet, so yea, of course it's going too look like
> that. What do you expect? "Author Andrei is a mediocre programmer we picked
> up off some random street in Boise."
>
> Besides, if there are any programmers who have good reason to have an big
> ego (Which I certainly haven't seen in Andrei), then Andrei would certainly
> be one of them. And that's praise Andrei *didn't* write himself ;)
>
>> I can't, in good conscience, support a language that has someone like this
>> at the wheel. Sorry.
>
> Speaking of drama queens... ;)
>
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