dmd support for IDEs and the D tool chain
Denis Koroskin
2korden at gmail.com
Fri Oct 16 05:27:03 PDT 2009
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:20:31 +0400, Ary Borenszweig <ary at esperanto.org.ar>
wrote:
> Denis Koroskin wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:06:59 +0400, Jacob Carlborg <doob at me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my thoughts and what I think is needed to build a really good
>>> IDE and maybe get some attention from the enterprise. It's really not
>>> enough for the compiler to output some json for an IDE to use, the
>>> whole tool chain needs to be revised.
>>>
>>> Compiler:
>>> * Written in D
>>> * Supports all major platform
>>> * 32 and 64bit support
>>> * Doesn't have annoying bugs like forward reference errors and
>>> problem
>>> with the linker
>>> * Built with and IDE in mind
>>> * Can be built as a (dynamic)library
>>> * Can build dynamic libraries
>>> * Supports incremental builds
>>> * Has clearly separate components, especially the front- and
>>> back-end.
>>> * Has a license that allows it to be built into an IDE and/or shipped
>>> with an IDE
>>> * Basically something like LLVM + Clang
>>>
>>> Compiler or separate tool:
>>> * Automatically tracks all dependencies and builds the
>>> application/library (like DSSS)
>>>
>>> GUI library:
>>> * Written in D
>>> * Supports all major platforms (mac, linux, win)
>>> * Uses native controls (as much as possible) to draw its controls
>>> * Supports (de)serializing controls (Glade, nib)
>>>
>>> IDE:
>>> * Written in D
>>> * Be able to show syntax and semantic errors as you type
>>> * Autocompletion
>>> * Refactoring
>>> * Building
>>> * Supports incremental builds
>>> * Basically something like Eclipse JDT
>>>
>>> GUI builder:
>>> * Supports (de)serializing controls (Glade, nib)
>>> * Basically something like Interface Builder, Glade
>>>
>>>
>>> All of the above would be the most optimal. For example, everything
>>> don't have to be built in D but for building an IDE in D I think that
>>> it would be easier.
>>>
>> I can't agree more. Everything you wrote is in my TODO list, starting
>> with a compiler, which already compiles most of the druntime (and
>> hopefully will compile it fully by the end of this week). I'll release
>> it to public as soon as Brad creates a project page at dsource.
>
> Is it a port of DMD? Because I think the main problem with above is that
> the front-end is not very good... I think it has a lot of evolved code
> and starting from scratch might be a good idea.
Yes, it's a DMD port. Unfortunately, there is no other mature D front-end
at present. Other folks are working on D compilers (dil, dang, ...) but
the progress is very slow.
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