Why Ruby?

[Nick Sabalausky]

"piotrek" <starpit at tlen.pl> wrote in message 
news:ieb3ik$1ri8$1 at digitalmars.com...
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:53:40 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>
>> "lurker" <lurk at lurk.net> wrote in message
>> news:ie8rc3$27l1$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>>>
>>>> "piotrek" <starpit at tlen.pl> wrote in message
>>>> news:ie8fu9$ejl$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>>> > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:49:50 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> >> By the way, I couldn't stop cringing at the distasteful,
>>>> >> male-centric sexual jokes that the talk is peppered with. Wonder if
>>>> >> there was any woman in the audience, and how she might have felt.
>>>> >> And this is not a ghetto rant - it's the keynote of a major Ruby
>>>> >> conference! (And I'm definitely not a prude.) Am I alone in
>>>> >> thinking that this is not what our metier should evolve into?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Andrei
>>>> >
>>>> > You're definitely not. No matter how strong pressure is, I stand and
>>>> > fight against common acceptance for female humiliation. It's so sad
>>>> > to me how many think they're real men while treating women as a
>>>> > things they can freely abuse.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Didja hear the one about the blonde who couldn't find her pencil?
>>>
>>> I have a bad sense of humor, but what is this if I'm trolling?
>>
>> Heh. It's me being an ass :)
>>
>> But seriously, I'm not flaming anyone here, and really taking a
>> round-about way to point out that there's too much "inventing things to
>> be offended about" going on in the world. I still haven't looked at the
>> video, so maybe some of the things really were worse than the example
>> Andrei mentioned or the joke I referenced above, but *if* these things
>> are the sorts of things that piotrek and Andrei find "offensive to
>> women", then I'd have to call a big "bullshit, this is just inventing
>> blatant assumptions and then getting offended by them".
>
> Firstly I apologize Andrei if I put him in bad light after hijacking his 
> sub-thread
> and then using it to add some personal opinion. Secondly I was referring 
> to
> bigger picture of society and not only this video. And still I don't agree 
> to
> "tolerate"* behavior which is based on so called "freedom". Because all 
> you do
> has its consequence and interacts with "freedom" of other people and vice
> versa. Of course appropriate action should be used not exaggerated ones.
> And I had a peaceful intercommunication on my mind when speaking about
> fighting ;) I can say as a Christian that respect for dignity goes along 
> with love.
> But your choice. And in the world the weak ones are abused all the time.
> I couldn't live pretending I don't see it. So one way is to give my 
> opinion. Not
> don't giving a shit.
>

Yea, it's entirely possible that we have completely different sorts of 
things in mind when you're talking about "offensive" and when I'm talking 
about "not offensive".

I'll admit I was being a bit of an ass by referencing that joke as an 
attempt to guage whether or not it was the sort of thing you would find 
offensive. Should have just come out and asked "Is this the sort of thing 
you mean?" Feel free not to answer that though, I don't think either of us 
are feeling particularly inclined to end up in a heated debate about it 
today.