Why Ruby?
foobar
foo at bar.com
Sun Dec 19 09:54:01 PST 2010
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
> > Either way, I personally don't care that much for another syntax for delegates. I personally just want to see this ugly hack removed from the standard library and discouraged. This feature promotes a code smell. And for what, as you said yourself, to save 4 characters?
>
> "a > b" vs. (a, b) { return a > b; }
>
> Savings: 17 characters.
>
I reserve the right to dislike it even if it was 20 characters. The fact that it's a useful hack doesn't make it smell less.
> > D should be consistent with only ONE delegate syntax. This is why Ruby reads like poetry to its followers and c++ is like carving letters in stone.
>
> Also, Ruby is well slower than C++ and other languages. It's easy to
> design a beautiful language if that's the primary concern. It's
> difficult to design a language when you want to keep in harmony a larger
> list of desiderata.
>
> > I much prefer that the lowering you mentioned to be implemented so that performance wise this UGLY hack will have no benefits.
>
> The lowering will unfortunately solve little. I don't see how
>
> sort!"a > b"(array);
>
> is horrible but
>
> sort(a, b; array) { return a > b; }
I wasn't referring to the above which still deals with the syntactic issue.
I'm talking about making:
sort!"a >b"(whatever);
and
sort(whatever, (a, b) { return a>b; });
have the same performance. Thus obviating the need for the first form.
the best form IMO would be of course:
whatever.sort((a, b) { return a>b; });
This touches another topic - the universal function call feature.
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